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Fosse
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« on: June 21, 2009, 09:55:59 AM »

For the sake of the Greek people, a military occupation of the American mainland has been ordered.  The reasons for this are straightforward:

1 - America has withdrawn from the war against the enemy and proclaimed neutrality while failing to disallow enemy troops harbor in American cities.
2 - America's leadership has shown increasing instability following its conversion to the so-called "Path" of the Founders' religion.
3 - America has, of late, been building forts along the Greek border which could serve as defensive fortifications for Founder troops.
4 - America has consistently ignored our pleas to cease all diplomatic stances which may aid the enemy, in respect for their newly proclaimed neutrality.

The Greek people have no desire to violently assimilate the American people.  We would like to begin immediate discussion with American leadership regarding the eventual repatriation of occupied American cities when the safety of Greece can be assured.

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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2009, 10:37:49 AM »

I have always assumed that the reason greece continues to fight this war is their narrow minded and ignorant view of The Truth. However, their recent action clearly shows that greece is merely a warmongering nation intent on greed and destruction of those around them.

Remember this is the same nation who destroyed their northern neighbour centuries ago for the sole reason that they wished to expand.

Now America tries to achieve peace. They wish to expand their minds and learn of The Path in a neutral fashion. They have been allies of greece for decades and yet they now find themselves at war with their so called 'friends'.

I aggressively refute that The Founders would ever consider putting at risk the lives of those who wish to follow The Path. No Founders troops will be found in America save for peaceful missionaries and teachers. Any defensive fortifications being constructed by America is being done so through their own fear of your current actions. The American cease fire in no way affects this war in anything other than giving greece the excuse they so clearly desire to attack their neighbours for their own expansive needs.

This war declaration is a sham. It will be revealed to the world that these reasons for war are illegal.
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Fosse
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2009, 11:53:49 AM »

How truly absurd.  What possible moral ground does this madman feel he stands on, from which he can question Greek motivations?  Having ceaseless waged and prepared for war, eliminated rivals "for the sole reason that they wished to expand," and committed genocide on a horrifying scale, the Foudners are the last nation that can seek to reprimand anybody on moral issues.  The Founders and her allies have killed hundreds of thousands of non-combatants, and burned some of the world's oldest cities to the ground.

You claim the justification of the American war is illegal, yet you started a genocide on the false pretense that Carolus Maltman stole gold from one of your cities (who had no spies... did not even have alphabet technology at the time of the alleged theft).  You accuse me of warmongering expansionism, yet I do not wish to keep the cities Greece occupies.

You accuse me of warmongering yet you have warred for all of history in the name of your "path."  Greece fought one war eons ago, under different leadership.  The Founders have waged war endlessly under your deceptive rule. 

Had we truly desired to occupy America we would not have pleaded with them to take reasonable action to avoid conflict, and we would not be willing to pledge to return their cities when the danger passes.

As for the reason that Greece continues to fight this war:  You have proven that nothing short of the extermination of those who do not follow your religious dogma will satisfy your bloodlust.  Greece stands between you and the slaughter of innocents.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2009, 12:25:40 PM »

Oh how I must refrain from taking The One's name in vain.

We seem to be back to basics as to why we are at war. Why do you continuously ignore the statements I make explaining the actions. Must I go through this yet again?

How truly absurd.  What possible moral ground does this madman feel he stands on, from which he can question Greek motivations?  Having ceaseless waged and prepared for war, eliminated rivals "for the sole reason that they wished to expand," and committed genocide on a horrifying scale, the Foudners are the last nation that can seek to reprimand anybody on moral issues.  The Founders and her allies have killed hundreds of thousands of non-combatants, and burned some of the world's oldest cities to the ground.
The Founders have only waged war on those who seek to undermine The Path. We have stated since the dawn of time that such actions will be cause for war and have always acted as such. We have never attacked our neighbours for expansive purposes. We have only killed those who attempt to deny The Truth. Those who follow The Path and those who wish to stay out of any conflicts have not been harmed.

You claim the justification of the American war is illegal, yet you started a genocide on the false pretense that Carolus Maltman stole gold from one of your cities (who had no spies... did not even have alphabet technology at the time of the alleged theft).  You accuse me of warmongering expansionism, yet I do not wish to keep the cities Greece occupies.
That is a complete distortion of what happened. We initially declared war on carolingia for two thefts of gold:
1) As you claim, gold was stolen by a spy. We have since acknowledged that this theft was not performed by carolingia after proof was presented it was not the case
2) The original 'theft' was the gift of gold we presented to carolingia in exchange for their help preventing the illegal flow of military resources through their lands to our previous enemy the dokko. This may not have been a direct theft in the traditional sense, but the fact that the resource still arrived in enemy hands proves carolingia did not meet their end of the bargain yet made no attempt to return the gold they received for services incomplete.

Had (2) also been resolved the war would have ended immediately. However, instead of that the carolingian leader sought to speak blasphemy and undermine The Path. Suggesting that The Truth is not the will of The One is also cause for war - again as has been in legal binding since the dawn of time. Not once has their leader apologised for this outrage or attempted to repent his sins. This is the reason war continues. I am amazed you did not learn this from your predecessor.

You accuse me of warmongering yet you have warred for all of history in the name of your "path."  Greece fought one war eons ago, under different leadership.  The Founders have waged war endlessly under your deceptive rule. 
An unbelieveable statement - greece fought one war eons ago against a neighbour simply for their own greed. They now declare war on their undefended neighbour in similar circumstances and attempt to cover it by blaming The Founders. We are not in America and would not put their people in danger by stationing our units there. I now begin to wish I had since we may have been able to defend them against your hordes. All wars in which The Founders have been involved have all stemmed from the single most important law in our time which has forever been available for all to see in our embassies. Those who break this law will face the consequences.

Had we truly desired to occupy America we would not have pleaded with them to take reasonable action to avoid conflict, and we would not be willing to pledge to return their cities when the danger passes.

If only such a statement were true. greece merely wishes to ensure that aid cannot reach America via our trade routes. If you truly are honourable then give back the cities to America immediately and I will personally ensure that any open borders agreements between The Founders and America are immediately cancelled. I only pray that other nations can find it in their hearts to give food, medicines and shelter to the American people while The Founders are forcibly unable to do so.

As for the reason that Greece continues to fight this war:  You have proven that nothing short of the extermination of those who do not follow your religious dogma will satisfy your bloodlust.  Greece stands between you and the slaughter of innocents.
greece continues to fight a war for which they do not understand the reasons of it's beginning. The carolingian leader cannot be allowed to maintain his power. His extermination is now the only thing which will prevent further bloodshed. You are the one that continues to send innocent soldiers to their deaths to protect a man who is only looking after his own interests. Only one execution is required to end this war. Remember you are the one who ignored our peace talks and continued your assaults.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2009, 02:49:32 PM »

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If only such a statement were true. greece merely wishes to ensure that aid cannot reach America via our trade routes. If you truly are honourable then give back the cities to America immediately and I will personally ensure that any open borders agreements between The Founders and America are immediately cancelled. I only pray that other nations can find it in their hearts to give food, medicines and shelter to the American people while The Founders are forcibly unable to do so.
The criminal leader of The Founders is not recognized as having the authority to negotiate on the behalf of any nation save the Founders themselves.  WarningU2's ambassadors will be welcome in Greece, and we'll be happy to resort to attempt to resolve the situation with them.
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As for the reason that Greece continues to fight this war:  You have proven that nothing short of the extermination of those who do not follow your religious dogma will satisfy your bloodlust.  Greece stands between you and the slaughter of innocents.

greece continues to fight a war for which they do not understand the reasons of it's beginning. The carolingian leader cannot be allowed to maintain his power. His extermination is now the only thing which will prevent further bloodshed. You are the one that continues to send innocent soldiers to their deaths to protect a man who is only looking after his own interests. Only one execution is required to end this war.
And yet you have executed citizens of Florence, Vienna, Aachen.  Hundreds of innocent people thousands of people slaughtered.  No matter how you try to frame your savage quest for blood, and even if anyone else in the world were to accept your vendetta against Carolus Maltman, there was no reason for those people to die.  We cannot allow the same fate to befall Prague or any other city on this planet.

Even if one were to accept your assertion that Greece does not understand the cause of this war (we do.  Simple bloodlust, dressed up as religious fundamentalist dogma), we are fully aware of the barbaric nature with which you have executed it.  We will forever stand between innocents and their executioner, in the name of justice.  If The Founders truly wish for peace they will have to accept compromise.  I have no doubt that a reasonable peace can be reached, as Greece desperately wishes for peace.  We are only willing to fight because Justice is at stake. 

Any further discussion with The Founders may continue in the Founder of Greek embassies.  This is not the place for continued verbal sparring.  We will continue to visit the American embassy to engage with American diplomats.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2009, 03:12:55 PM »

I cannot understand how you blame The Founders for your war with America, and then refuse to accept any offer we make to rectify the situation.

In accordance with your wishes I have sent a diplomat to your embassy. I pray for his safety and I hope this time you will treat peace talks seriously instead of using them as cover for further military moves.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 04:37:13 AM »

The America people are apalled at the invasion from our former Greek allies.   Their oppression is unwarranted.

Will the world watch as they destroy our civilization?   We have no defence to their superior technology. 
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Fosse
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2009, 08:21:18 AM »

WarningU2:
There is no oppression here.  Your people will be treated justly (even those who do not consider themselves Greek cousins, as many of them do).  And we will not destroy any civilization.  This is a safety measure to ensure Greece's ability to defend itself and its allies from the Founders.  The mainland American cities will be occupied, and returned upon a mutually agreed upon Treaty when the war with The Founders is over.  In the meantime, we will accept any diplomats who wish to engage in discussion.

We did try to avoid this situation, but America's insistence on allowing passage of Founder units forced our hand.

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2009, 06:02:41 AM »

We allowed equal passage to both founders and their opposition there is nothing to fear from learning about the truth.

We will soon cease to exist as a civilization.

Let the history books show that America was destroyed by its evil neighbours.

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 09:41:14 AM »

There is nothing to fear from learning of, or even embracing, any of the religions in this world.  Greece's own Buddhist heritage strongly supports such an ideal.  There is much to fear from the Founders having ports so close to the Greek heartland.  Greece made it very clear to you and your government why mutually open borders were unacceptable and not at all a neutral position.  Were America equally close to the Founder's cities and holdings as they are to Greece's homeland you could have argued that equal passage to all was indeed neutral.  The previous arrangement was unsafe for Greece, and after repeated requests from Greece you would not change it, forcing our hand.

America will not cease to exist as a Civilization.  We have clearly stated that our occupation of the mainland is all that is required to restore security to our western coast.  American leadership will be allowed passage to any of your offshore holdings, in addition to our repeated pledge to find a way to repatriate the occupied cities at the end of the war with the Founders.  We will happily speak to your diplomats to work out the details of the return of American governors to American cities when the war ends.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 09:52:11 AM »

As of this hour the occupation of American territory on the main continent is complete.  The American government has been safely evacuated to to Hawaii.  Greek troops shall not engage further with American troops unless it can be demonstrated that said Americans are seeking to provide direct aid to the Founders or harm to the Greeks.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2009, 09:15:32 PM »

We watch appalled as our cities burn under the oppressors, our neighbours, our friends who we shared bread with and joined the field of battle together. 

Our own troops provided in kind for the defense of Greek borders turned against us or slaughtered and buried in mass graves for their supposed crimes.



And yet now we are at war with Da Vinci too?   Have we not suffered enough?

Our nation that has done nothing more than try to distance itself from a pointless war.

We have found the truth.   Let us live in peace.
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